[TW: SA, r*pe, murder, violence]

Host Shawna Potter speaks to Palehound singer El about their song "Killer,"  a (platonic) love song about the desire to protect a friend from their abuser - and just how far they’ll go to do it. They discuss how El writes songs, the value of violence, and the considerations taken when writing songs about real people and their trauma. Then Shawna chats with Angeles Evans from TurnAround, an organization offering services to victims of trafficking, sexual assault and rape, and intimate partner violence (IPV). In this in-depth, long-form interview, they discuss how to help our friends affected by (IPV), what justice can look like, and what she wishes people knew about her violence-prevention work. It’s a must listen episode!

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Thanks to Brooks Harlan for chopping up War On Women’s song “Her?” to create the podcast theme song. Main podcast photo: Justin Borucki.

SPONSOR LINKS:

https://www.firstdefensekravmaga.com/

https://pupcakesandpawstries.com/

SHOW LINKS:

“Killer” Palehound - Killer [OFFICIAL AUDIO]

https://www.palehound.com/

TurnAround's 24/7 Helpline: 443.279.0379

TurnAround's 24/7 Text Line: 410.498.5956

TurnAround's Website: www.turnaroundinc.org

National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)

Maryland Network Against Domestic Violence www.mnadv.org

Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741

Decolonizing non violent communication: https://co-conspirator.press/Decolonizing-Non-Violent-Communication

To access confidential help, visit https://www.rainn.org or call 800-656-HOPE (4673)

https://righttobe.org/conflict-de-escalation-training/

Men Can Stop Rape: https://mcsr.org/